Yeah, 100% behind that. A couple of thoughts of which I'm not so sure.

What do you think of smart curation bots who leave an AI comment instant of what we are used to right now with !LOL or !BEER

What to do with AI writing tools, I have a strong idea that those will be as comments as word correction pretty soonish and they will phrase/rephrase for us. Shouldn't we endorse those to increase the level of written content?

AI Pictures & AI Art seem uncopyrightable as intellectual property. Now people claim they modified the left cheek and now it's their original art, well I find it difficult to argue, but of course, The Alien Art Hive Community is doing that for years already. Any thoughts about those?

My last thought would be, that I wanted to see an AI Dev Community popping up on Hive for a long time already. Most of that ppl aren't Software developers but rather run a rented server or have a potent system to play with and add some scripts on a shell. It should be fine for them to share their progress under the correct taggings.

AI-enhanced or completely AI written Content has been on the Chain for more than a year at least. When I started calling out accounts, none seemed to care. In my opinion, the Downvote and Reputation system "as a system" has miserable failed us, but there will be AI Content Attacks on Hive and we might want to get in a position to see them coming and use the tools we have.

I'm with you on this. It's crap and if I see it I will remove as much as I can from it. Sheer lazy farming

Although I do agree that AI-generated text being passed off as original content should not be rewarded (on Hive or elsewhere), I fear that it’s going to be exceedingly difficult to stop.

As a university professor, I’m convinced that there’s no way we can continue relying on essays as a way to gauge student learning and comprehension.

I’ve taken steps to make it harder for my students to rely on AI to write their essays, but it’s an uphill battle that’s only going to get harder.

Even with OpenAI’s classifier, all the students need to do is revise the essay enough to fool the classifier, and eventually other AI tools will do that for them.

I agree 100%. I don't like AI writing or art...lazy, uncreative, unimaginative and farmy.

I have never been a fan of the downvote function, but for AI generated work ... absolutely. To the language barrier; there are translate apps that allow people to communicate across languages using human generated text.

Smart move otherwise it's going to turn into a crazy spam fest of junk with no one interacting sadly.

As "smart" as people think ChatGPT is it's actully super stupid it's just good at pulling older content from 2021 or later and rehashing it out with filter words etc. The only thing impressive about it is the speed at which it can do it. Besides that it's dumb AF

It's good that it has been introduced. Now, hopefully, people will think twice before casting their blind vote. It would've been a better practice to get to know the author/blogger a bit better first anyway IMO.

Fucking YES. I'm so over it already. A few have been creeping into Hive Garden and I just muted one today. Go dv it for me if you like. And the other day I had an argument with a guy who FINALLY admitted it was AI, and then got annoyed and left the community and possibly HIVE. Do they think we're idiots or something? It's not fair on all the other people here who are trying hard. @azircon, I honestly can't tell you how happy I am to read this post.

https://peakd.com/hive-140635/@whisky2/how-to-grow-lettuce?fbclid=IwAR3kD2slHSA0TW-QJ23cdu6wZZyFoDYDjrHDnS3MSFp-LV-LTAVj9M_3krs

I would have no problem with the images IF he said 'I created these AI lettuces etc' but he's passed them off as his photographs - and the text is clearly AI generated as well. It drives me wild. Hive gardeners are awesome generally, passionate and honest, so when I find one of these I make very clear it's not on.

Completely agree, this can cause many problems in the future and give the facility to many people who opt for this system both to perform work of his institute, 100% agree with you friend.

Hi @azircon, I do agree with you that using AI in HIVE which is supposed to be a blog where people should share original content is like cheating. I think the main problem is that as you said: the fact we are relatively small (anything and everything gets voted, some to obnoxious amounts) . I see a lot of posts, which are not original at all, or in which people didn't even put any effort at all to write being upvoted by the biggest curators. So the question that I ask, is: are all the curators even reading what they upvote? Of course, this is just a provocation since everyone is free to upvote what he thinks is good content, but in my opinion, since there is not a strict policy on downvotes, this makes it easier to "cheat". When you give people the possibility to avoid the rules, they will... I see that a huge percentage of people on Hive put a lot of comments under posts that are generic on purpose since they didn't even read them. Wouldn't it be a good idea to downvote these comments? (and I don't want to be a hypocrite here, I also do it sometimes, simply because it is allowed and no one says anything about it). To make HIVE a better community and get people more involved I think this is a good starting point.

Hi @azircon,

I enjoy your post and spend time reading many comments here and I like the fact that you mention that is your personal opinion and your approach on this topic and I like that.

I think Artificial intelligence is bigger than articles and in my opinion, we need to pay more attention to those people who just copy/paste an article just to get paid and they did not earn the rewards for that shitty work, but what happened when Developers just do it?

What happens if the developer creates 5 websites in 1/4 of the time?

Did you know that there are AI tools that can edit a video very fast and get give you a high-quality edited video with subtitles, color correction, and new background removed and give you 10 different videos with different formats?

Right now, I'm writing this comment and I have an extension that is helping me with my mistyping called "Grammarly" because I'm not a native English speaker and without this extension, my comment will look like I'm a retard. My comment should be banned because I use AI to help me?

What I'm trying to say is that Artificial Intelligence is here to stay and we need to learn more about this new technology and try to get the best of it. How? I don't know the answer yet but is our duty to find out.

My personal views are simple. If someone is smart enought to resort to AI generated content and posting for rewards, all they care for is money. In that case all they deserve is downvote.

Oops, well said AI = downvote !

Understood 💯, it's better to share personal experiences, imaginary stories are allowed too, just vibe on hive 😊

I've tried to clean out the AI content that I've seen as well and left a few comments to the author that was posting them, to cut it out as I and many others don't feel that AI content deserves rewards. Thankfully they seem to have stopped at least for the time being. I don't know if they have other accounts, which they likely do but the more we can stamp out on the AI content front the better.

I'm interested in the methods used to detect the AI content but only in the terms of the community I own. I don't think there is any AI generated content in it but it would be nice to have someone pop in there occasionally to check it out and clean out a post or two if it's detected. The Rant, Complain, Talk community.

Given the nature of the Rant community though, with it being largely people needing to vent, I'm thankful that all of the content I've come across is genuine human content, to my knowledge. It wouldn't hurt to have one of the proof readers give it a look though!

100% right and this should be the rule as there is no grey area with this type of behavior.

I support the move human written content here. It will help us to retain a huge part of our human intelligence and emotional expressions

The AI is a tool very Useful, but I think that not for Supplant human creativity, or turn it into a cane that does our job at all times. I am agree with the AI 100 cus it is the future, but always using moderately and with responsibly.

The AI is a tool very Useful, but I think that not for Supplant human creativity, or turn it into a cane that does our job at all times. I am agree with the AI 100 cus it is the future, but always using moderately and with responsibly.

I think I saw livinguktaiwan write something similar to this at the end of last year just before the holidays.

In my opinion, it’s easier to identify original works since content written from the lives or experiences of others can not be AI written and so have lesser chances of being spun by AI or anything like that.

This actually made me laugh at first as I thought, "hmm I guess people COULD do that, but why?" Sometimes I'm a bit too innocent for my own good lol. But, for me, why this is sad, is I always say that Hive (and steemit when I started there) was like the glory days of the interwebs when personal blogs were a thing. Pre too much facebook, tik tok, instagram etc I LOVED that it was like a great place to read personal journals and almost like ZINE quality publications by individuals. I LOVE that Hive still had that feeling, Dear Internet GODS please don't take this last bastion of that away!

Soon, we won't even need humans to read anything we'll just have the ai bots do it, filter it and implant what we 'need' in our brain chips...Brave New World eh? INteresting @azircon

I couldn't agree more, AI-generated text is not original content.

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There are certain communities on Hive, where you can find a lot of AI generated content and it is supported too. There are certain users using AI, who you can spot from a mile. It's enough to question them about what they wrote in the post and you have the proof. I've been downvoting them for a while.

Great! Fully agree on this. I've heard some news about student made AI plagiarism detector hopefully devs working behind the scenes are making similar one to make Things work fine and same for everyone.

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I think it is an excellent decision, those AI's have only been created to make humans lazier and less creative (my humble opinion, don't be offended). I think they could be used, but in other ways, other than writing posts or creating images to tokenize them, etc. I really applaud this decision. Although I imagine that there will be many who will not listen and well, I guess that's where the great team of #hivewatchers will come in to avoid curating such publications. Cheers, thanks for your post, very informative.

Any way to start dropping account names with AI generated content on here? Or in some discord? I have spot like a handful of those since a few weeks ago...

Yes I agree with you, keep ChatGPT bot posts out of our Hive.

I agree with your opinion. I've been writing in Splinterlands, and in my opinion, since Splinterlands is very niche game topic, its currently less prone to farmer creating AI generated content. But we won't know for sure in the future.

I could just think some aspect of an original writing: 1) It contains a personalized opinion of the writer; and 2) The writing would use some referral, either a referral link pointing to other paragraph within the posts or link to the writer past content.

I agree completely about the AI writing, but I find the AI art generators really handy, I've never been that great of an artist, so being able to have a visual representation for something I'm imagining is really good. Obviously if the content is centred around the piece of art that's bad, but if it's just being used as a thumbnail it's okay IMO.

The whole AI craze has gotten to a point now where it's seeping into everything, not just Hive. I've been coming across a lot of YouTube channels in the last year that seem to be completely AI made, AI script, AI music, AI voice, even AI videos over the rest. Mad really, but that seems to be the way things are going.

I think in the near future writers and content creators are going to need to do something drastic, like completely miss spell words, and use bad grammer and puncuation to prove that it's real haha by 2040 novels written by humans will be a mess, and the AI written ones will be masterworks in comparison.

But yeah, back to the serious note, it's a problem, especially here. I don't really know if it can be stopped though other than people being super suspicious of everyone elses content and not voting or even downvoting it on the grounds that it could be generated. Ofcourse it would be easy to tell whether something isn't personally written content, I.E no opinions/ life experiences referenced genuinely, but there is plenty of content written here that isn't blog style posts, so that would be harder to scrutinise or judge.

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Lets be honest here.. Only folks who haven't been actually paying attention are just starting to panic about this shit..

AI shitposting has been a thing on HIVE for well over 2 years at this point. Only fucking non-technical normies are panicking about this shit and noticing it now that it's going mainstream.

If anyone is deluded enough to think that small bands of rent a cop type users on HIVE is going to be able to do shit about AI genn'd content wave incoming.. Then you're higher than I am, which is impressive.

The fact people are witch hunting long time users that have done plenty of good for the chain because they tested an AI shitposter when ya'll haven't noticed the shit increase the past 2 years prior to chatGPT becoming mainstream says a lot.

Pro-Tip: Guys that test out tools and admit it right away aren't the fucking issue.

I support this 100%. It seems like another basic detection would be personal pictures.

Been so busy this week and just came across this post, which I fully agree and support. This whole AI thing is giving me massive concerns since ChatGPT appeared last year, and I know for sure there are more and more AI generated content these couple of months.

At the moment I have refrained from DV them yet, bar one account. Their chances of curation is reduced by what is within my control which is not a lot but sizeable for abusers.

I'm pretty sure as the detection tools become more mature, and I'm confident I can pick out accounts that AI generated content my DV will be there as well. Curators just need to spend more effort to analyse the post instead of just supporting a post that has a wall of well written text and good photos. Sometimes content is just too good to be true.

Finally someone has stated his stance on ai generated contents. Which I will personally use as reference in future. Thank you for this. It's time to go on rogue mode to stop/limit ai generated contents from HIVE.

In this same context, I do have suspicion that This Post is probably generated by AI (I cant prove it though). Additionally, this person has been spamming bit too much for past few months even after I have warned him several times.

It's a shame, I really do see the value in writing original content, it is a way to express ones thought's and feelings. I will pay personal attention to all posts generated through TeamPH and will support this initiative especially within our community. Thank you @azircon !

I agree 💯

permission to ask can we use google translate or can you give an example that includes ai. answer please

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Often, a lot of people who are leaning towards AI generated content are not native English speakers.

I’ve noticed a few cases where the post itself is in perfect English, but the title is clearly by someone who has a very limited grasp of English. Easy downvote.

Here's another one, same guy. Seems he thinks he's on a winner.

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/growing-microgreens-at-home

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/love-for-snails-night-smartphonephotography

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/porcini-mushrooms-smartphonephotography-and-some-interesting-info

@azircon Here is another. This is over 90 percent but I suspect he has a few more.

https://peakd.com/hive-163772/@forthefree19/new-zealand-the-dream-of

This is a no brainer, dada, posting AI generated writing and trying to get a payout at the end of the week? No integrity. Sadly, I know what you're talking about, and maybe even who you're talking about.

I only use some AI art whenever I can't find a proper image for my writing. You can also be quite creative with AI art; one can only create a good AI image when the text prompts are on point, and that takes quite a bit of time and thought.

I say art is the only form of AI content that is somewhat acceptable. Whether it be on Hive or any other platform, AI art can be used as a secondary addition, to somewhat "enhance" or assist the the main and original content/writing. And of course, it should also be mentioned below that the images were created through the help of AI.

That's really needed. We all wanna be connected by emotions and feelings. No AI can replace these things.

full support

Your thinking is very much logical,,, due to Ai generated text our own talent doesn't implement properly 😌

I am not sure if I have come across such content, maybe I have since you well explained that the authors are not native English speakers. Also, they won't be able to communicate any emotions since it's AI. If I do come across any, I'd just ignore such posts.

It just proves that the author has a very low self esteem that makes him think he can't produce any good content worth upvoting.

Thanks for the enlightenment.👍

I 100% agree on this. It does not promote self growth and is just aimed at extracting value in the system without putting any effort. As for me, I have spent long amount of time researching for a content, customizing images and sharing my individual thoughts for the topic I'm writing and when I finished writing them, I feel a sense of accomplishment regardless of it being rewarded or not and I think I have improved so much for the past 10 months looking at my Splinterlands content alone but I still strive to make it better and better.

Azircon the AI batman 😂😂😂

Although I support the movement 😂😂

You are right. It's basically being a freerider in a group assignment. I think most people wouldn't support AI generated text content but this also depends on whether you can tell if it was generated by AI which we might not be able to tell if the Ai was told to make it look like a real person did it? As for the ai generated images I also gree with you there, I think the images are ok as long as they back it up with their own words or maybe used their own drawing originally and AI generated from that ~.

How would you feel about AI generated writing that's edited, i.e., polished and personal7zed/customized. Perhaps generated through the burning of a token?

Personally I would consider accepting AI generated content if properly market and explained what tool was used. Using AI may be an important skill and we can't become like journalists who are offended by reality changes

Glad someone brought this up. I guess we'll soon be flooded with AI generated text and as you say if there is a way to figure out content that is not original we'll be doing Hive and us a huge favour.

This is what I felt when I heard about chatgpt helping content creator...ho eetly the more we are advancing we are leaving behind all the human touch and thought which is not good at all....the day is not far that we becomes machine slave

I agree AI content should be identified and called out. I follow a few people that have used AI art with their stories or discussed how AI is being/might be used in their professions. It seems clear what is legitimate discussion/use and what is abuse.

Oh great! Are you going to start a downvoting trail or something of the sorts! I'd love to jump in on that...

I was a little worried about me posting AI generated art but I read that piece at the end.. So I am assuming I am safe... Since I do add my own text content... But it might not be the best 😂😂😂

No I do fully agree, I wonder what's the hype behind this chatgpt... Ive seen it going crazy the last few weeks

I'm with ya! Being a photographer and not a writer I considered using AI for my posts. But overall it just I just get an icky feeling at the idea. Its not original or you.

Just collided with and though I don't use AI to write, I use it to generate images that go with the pieces I have created. Is that wrong?

I have a friend who claims he's interested in supporting my work. I think he means well, but every now and again, he says strange things.

He suggests I use AI generated content to "automate" my writing process. I can share more, then earn more, for less of my time...

Maybe because he's a creator, he just doesn't get it. I do it for the art- the respect and the rewards are just consequential of a job well done.

I don't think he'd become a supporter of mine here just yet, but I won't count him out. Glad to know people still value good effort.

Yeah I'm fully in support Ai should be banned from hive

Seriously, I totally support, I think people should just write however it comes to them, once it's original and communicates, I think it's cool

HIVE is ours and any action to protect our community is welcomed.

@azircon Hello I just got downvoted on my post by you and I am dead certain I wrote every single word of that post by myself. Can you please look into that?